Biblical foundation of the flat earth
First, I would recommend any visitor to this page to read Enoch's first book. It is mentioned 1 x directly in the book of Jude, where Jude sees him as a prophet of God, someone who clearly has a message from God for us (Jude 1:14). Peter also directly quotes a text from Enoch 1 in his 2nd letter 2 Peter 2:4. Third, but certainly not last, by Jesus himself indirectly by the following answer: "You are in error, for you do not know the scriptures, nor the power of God." (Matthew 22:29) He is referring to something that is not in our current Old Testament but in the book of Enoch (about the fact that marriage in heaven does not occur). The book of Enoch gives us tremendous insight into the shape of the earth, orbit of the sun and moon and the stars. Secondly, I would like to say this: as a christian I believe that God is pure and holy. Full of truth and grace. Accordingly, the Bible, His Word, is also true, holy, immovable, and eternally established. The bible is a book of truth. When talking about a stone it also says stone and not only a "spiritual" stone. Thus, I believe, the Bible gives historical evidence, biological evidence, physical evidence, and geographic evidence. Even in doggerel, poetry or dreams. (tribute to the writers of psalms, proverbs, lamentations).
I believe that Job actually lived and is not a fictional character. I believe that Jericho's walls have really fallen (pressed down, otherwise you can't get over them), that Enoch has been taken up into heaven, That (fallen) angels and nephilim and with them demons exist, that Jesus really healed people and delivered them, that demons exist, that Jesus and Peter actually walked on water, that Jesus raised people from the dead and that his life was actually a sacrifice and ransom to pay our debt. That there is a trinity consisting of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and that Jesus was 100% God and 100% human. I experience his presence every day and believe he will come back to judge the living and the dead.
one of the most astonishing verses about the shape of the earth is in Exodus 20 : 4 in wich the second commandment is stated: Thou shalt not make for thyself any image, no image whatsoever of what is in heaven above, or on the earth below, or in the waters under the earth. perfectly translated by any translation: in the water under the earth. Hello!
When you look in this verse a bit deeper, than under makes above and below not otherwise interpretable as being a sphere with a dome, waters and a heaven above, with a kinda half potato with the flat side up and under it water, sustained by pillars mentioned in Hannah’s prayer of thanksgiving, where she says, “The pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them He has set the world” (1 Samuel 2:8, ESV).
Than it makes perfect sense that in Job 38 : 22 is stated! " Have you entered the storehouses of snow or observed the storehouses of hail, which I hold in reserve for times of trouble, for the day of war and battle?… (think about the winter who helped the russians against the germans)
and when you consider that the sun and the moon does make cirkels within that dome: the next two verses makes suddenly perfect sense:
In Joshua 10 : 12-13, Joshua commands the sun: "Therefore Joshua invoked the help of the heavenly bodies: 'Sun, stand still in Gibeon, and thou, moon, in the valley of Aijalon!' And the sun stood still, and the moon stood still, until the people had avenged themselves on their enemies".
The sun went back once: Isaiah 38:8 "Look, the shadow on the sundial will go back ten steps." And the sun went back ten steps on the sundial that King Ahaz had previously set up.
Revelation 20 : 9 "And they came up beyond the breadth of the earth, and compassed about the camp of the saints, and the beloved city: but fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them." The "breadth of the Earth" implies that the Earth has a length and a width. So first of all, there is no room for a convex Earth. But there is much more: Strong's gives the word πλάτος (platos) for "breadth": our word plateau or flat comes from that. The flat earth is literally in the Bible. interestingly, many translations translate πλάτος as: “from all over the earth.”
18 (eighteen!) bible verses that tell us that the earth does not move, but is fixed, stable and founded: 1 Chronicles 16 : 30, Psalm 33 : 9, Psalm 82 : 5, Psalm 93 : 1, Psalm 96 : 10, Psalm 104 : 5, Psalm 119 : 89-90, 1 Samuel 2 : 8, Isaiah 14 : 7, Isaiah 24 : 18, Isaiah 45 : 18, Isaiah 51 : 13. Zecharaiah 1 : 11, Hebrew 4 : 3, 2 Peter 3 : 5, Jeremiah 10 : 12 (kun" means stable) Jeremiah 31 : 37, Proverbs 8 : 29
The Earth has outer edges. Job 38 : 13 and Isaiah 24 : 16
the earth has foundations: job 38 : 5 "Who decided how big the earth should be? You probably know that! Who measured the earth? Where does the earth stand on?"
Job 37:3 "He makes it roll all over the heavens, his bolts shine to the ends of the earth".
and if you interpret the previous sentence in a different way: then you run into this: Job 28:24 "For he sees to the ends of the earth, under all heaven nothing escapes his sight."
Job 38 : 14 "Like clay in which a seal is stamped, so the earth takes shape, its surface is draped like a cloth". According to my simple perception that will not work on a sphere:
The snow and hail storage rooms are above the dome. Job 38 : 22.
The stars always revolve around the polestar that is fixed. That different stars come together at a certain moment (birth of Jesus) and that blood moons and lunar eclipses take place has nothing to do with the movement of "planets" but with God's miraculous power that does that. Look through the holes of Stonehenge and the Georgia Guidestones and see the ever-present polestar. Jude 1:13 speaks of wandering stars or stars that keep walking in circles. Watch this fantastic video! -->
Matthew 4 : 8 "Then the devil took Jesus to a very high mountain. From that mountain he showed Jesus all the kingdoms of the world, with all their power and wealth". This is impossible on a ball. |
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Ancient maps of ancient civilizations invariably indicate that the Earth is flat with an expanse (dome) above it. See example above from the Hebrews. Every ancient civilization has 1, the Mayans, the Incas, the Babylonians, the Medes & Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, see picture on the right, Even the freemasons (aka church of satan) believe we live on a flat earth.
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Revelation 5 : 3 "But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was worthy to open the scroll and read it."
Where is the bottom of the convex Earth? And who stays there?
In Revelation 12 : 4 the beast drags 1/3 of the stars on the earth with its tail.
Revelation 6 : 13 "The stars fell from heaven to the earth, as a fig tree bears its unripe fruit when shaken by a strong wind."
How is that possible when they are millions of light years from Earth? According to modern science, they are very large.
Daniel 8 : 10 "And he became great unto the host of heaven; and he cast down some of that master, even of the stars, to the ground, and he trod down them."
Math. 24 : 29. "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not shine forth, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken." Words of Jesus.
There is mention of a vault of heaven, a expanse, a dome at least 18 times: Genesis 1 : 6 to 1 : 20 (9x), Psalm 19 : 1, Psalm 150 : 1, Ezekiel 1 : 23-26 (3x), Ezekiel 10 : 1, Daniel 12 : 3, and Amos 9 : 6
There is mention of a tree of life that could be seen by everyone in the bible: its branches reached to heaven! (Daniel 4 : 8)
Job 37 : 18: "Have you stretched out the heavens with Him, which are solid as a molten glass?"
Psalm 104 : 2 "He covers himself with light as with a garment; he stretches out the heavens like a curtain."
The earth is round like a circle, but not spherical. Proverbs 8 : 27: "When He prepared the heavens, I was there; when He set a circle over the face of the abyss." Job 26 : 10 also says the same. (note: a face of a human is not a ball either. It does not say head. If u put a circle over a face it does not take a form of a ball suddenly)
Isaiah 40 : 22 "He is enthroned above the disc of the earth - they dwell as locusts -" Here the Hebrew word "khoog" is used, (pronounced "kug") which means circle, circuit, disk. For the skeptics among us, Isaiah could have used the word "dure" (pronounced "dur"). "dur" means circle, pile, ball, and Isaiah uses that word 18 chapters earlier in 22 : 18 where God speaks “Beware, the Lord is about to take firm hold of you and hurl you away, you mighty man. He will roll you up tightly like a ball and throw you into a large country. There you will die and there the chariots you were so proud of will become a disgrace to your master’s house"
Job 26:7 "He stretches out his heavens over empty space. He hangs the earth on nothing" whatsoever, this verse makes 2 things clear: it doesn't say anything about the form of the earth (could be a half potato with a dome over it) and " "hanging" implies it hangs still and not moving with a tremendous speed.
The waters above heaven are called to praise God!: Psalm 148 : 4 "Praise Him, O heavens of heavens! And ye waters that art above the heavens!"
Water came from above the earth (from above the dome) and water came from under the earth: Genesis 7:11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep broke open, and the windows of heaven were opened".
The light of the day was created first, the sun and moon 3 days later. The sun is an extra light. This is also literally stated in Genesis 1:14: "And God said, 'I want lights to come in the sky. They will make the difference between the day and the night. And they will be designations to the people. Also they will take care of seasons, days and years. 15 Let the lights be in the heavens and give light to the earth.” What He said happened. 16 God made the two great lights. The great light was to shine by day, the small light by night.” Moon is thus a small extra light during the night, next to the stars. Did you know that the temperature in the light of the moon is colder than in the shadow of the moon? Notice that God did not give a name to the little light and the great light. He called the daylight: "light".
The earth was created first, then the sun. Genesis 1 : 1-19. Around what did the earth circulate in those 3 days? In other words: it's not all about that yellow warm extra light source.
How did the Church Fathers of the time of the printing press actually think about the shape of the earth? below 2 quotes, 1 from Calvin and 1 from Luther: